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Old May 15, 2011, 02:04 PM
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Default How to make collie/heltie head (show grooming)?

Hi, i have a sheltie and he has a lot of hair, and I always wanted to know how can I build those amazing heads that look like a lion like in this dog's picture http://www.goldenhylite.com/sugar.html

Do you know how to do it or online classes, dvd, books, etc

Or if you breed/show shelties and could give me online payed classes (by email, chat, wecam etc.)

Please because I live in chile and here nobody do that in their shelties
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Old May 15, 2011, 03:08 PM
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Im a little confused...are you talking about getting the ruff to stay up like that or the general head shape? It all depends on the dog and what they have for structure and coat to be able to achieve that look.
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Old May 16, 2011, 11:46 PM
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I was talking about both :D , actually im looking for profesional advise on the general show grooming for shelties, as i said, I could pay if some sheltie profesional breeder teach me how :)
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Old May 17, 2011, 03:17 PM
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Brush your Sheltie's hair backward - like toward the head. Also, invest in a nice brush and some Chris Christiansen hair products.

Or you could just take them outside on a windy day....

Some of the fluffiness is genetic, and some Shelties don't get in their full coat until age 2 or 3. Some never really get that huge coat.
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Old May 17, 2011, 06:47 PM
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There is a book called the Illustrated Guide to Sheltie Grooming by Barb Ross that you might find helpful. It is my bible. There is also an online video you can buy from Silver Trails Shelties which is very helpful as well.

Both will show brushing techniques for lifting the fur to its highest loft.

You need to be aware though, that photo's like the one you posted....these dogs are totally pumped up with chalk and other grooming products to make the ruff stand out.

Not something you would use everyday. For show only.

And as Diana said, some dogs take many years to grow into their full coat. My boys are both 3 years old and I'm still waiting for it.
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Old May 17, 2011, 10:43 PM
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There is a book called the Illustrated Guide to Sheltie Grooming by Barb Ross that you might find helpful. It is my bible. There is also an online video you can buy from Silver Trails Shelties which is very helpful as well.

Both will show brushing techniques for lifting the fur to its highest loft.

You need to be aware though, that photo's like the one you posted....these dogs are totally pumped up with chalk and other grooming products to make the ruff stand out.

Not something you would use everyday. For show only.

And as Diana said, some dogs take many years to grow into their full coat. My boys are both 3 years old and I'm still waiting for it.
Thanks Barb! :) Beat me to it!! Dang work that gets in the way of being on the forum Generally the Ruff will not stay like pictured without product in it, be it chalk, cholesterol, hairspray, etc...and a good windy day helps as well

Id check out the sites Barb mentioned, also check out dog shows in your area, nothing can substitute being shown in person by a breeder/handler. Or even go back to the breeder you got your puppy from and ask them for tips/hints on trimming. Trimming of the head is tricky at best...and takes lot of practice!
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Old May 18, 2011, 07:25 AM
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Id check out the sites Barb mentioned, also check out dog shows in your area, nothing can substitute being shown in person by a breeder/handler. Or even go back to the breeder you got your puppy from and ask them for tips/hints on trimming. Trimming of the head is tricky at best...and takes lot of practice!
Amen. I am taking lessons from a breeder/handler down here. I have been in this breed 14 years, and am just now learning to show groom.
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I agree with what Rachael and Lightplum have said about getting help and tips from a breeder. If I lived closer to Emma and Liam's breeder, I would be asking her for help and tips, which she had agreed to do. Unfortunately, I am two hours away from her. I too am learning how to trim, etc, just by looking at the dogs on the breeder's website, and from all the great people here on the forum.
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Two hours didn't stop me : ) It was a long, but very worthwhile day.
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Old May 18, 2011, 01:52 PM
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Two hours didn't stop me : ) It was a long, but very worthwhile day.
Two hours is DEFINATLY Worth it!! Heck Connie (aka MissJenneyGirl) is 2 hours from me (each way) and I think nothing going there if I need a good (read not messed up by me) head trim! I usually make a good half day of it and we usually end up eating someplace yummy for lunch with her! So its well worth it all the way around!!!
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