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While we are on the subject, part two...Atopic Dermatitis

Discussion in 'Reference' started by The Quahog, Oct 21, 2011.

  1. The Quahog

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    So as its 'that time of year', and I have seen several threads here about the dog who gets itchy each fall, I thought I would use Sheltie Forum as guinea pi... test subjects for peer review.
    I'm writing up a page or two on 'the atopy lecture' for my practice website, and thought I would post it here.
    A few codicils -
    Yes, you can Google any of this. As I always say, I am a 'grunt in the trenches' not a trained academic. This is not cutting edge stuff, I won't be discussing drugs like misoprostil. This is the explanation a GP gives to clients with itchy dogs, in a manner they will understand, to drive home as many 'take home points' as possible in 5 minutes. It deals with the practical realities of the situation and the experience of treating a few thousand (ok, many thousand) dogs for this condition. This is basically our explanation of how we handle this problem in our practice. Others take a different, very likely better approach,and that is fine.
    Comments, clarifications, omissions, complaints of parts which are obscure or difficult to to understand etc. welcome. (I can even answer - 'Why didn't he talk about food?' - if i must. :rolleyes2:)
    But I do think this also addresses some of the questions raised in other threads.
     
  2. The Quahog

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    Atopy, or Atopic Dermatitis

    From August to October far and away the commonest disease condition a veterinarian practicing in the Northeast United States will deal with is atopy, or atopic dermatitis. This condition, sometimes called 'inhalant allergies' or 'environmental allergies' often accounts for two thirds of all the cases we see in a given day.
    Put simply, when dogs get hay fever they don't sneeze, they itch. This generally begins with the ears, the feet, and the groin or anal region, and can progress over the entire trunk. If that seems odd, consider the person who is allergic to strawberries and eats a strawberry - they get the same type of reaction, red itchy ears and an allergic rash on the skin.
    Atopic dogs generally have multiple allergies and can react at any time of the year- there are tree pollens in the Spring, leaf molds in the Fall, molds and mildews and the always miserable dust mites in a closed up houise in the Winter. But the big one is the weeds, because they pollinate for such a long time, which is why for most patients August to October is 'itch season.'

    Treatments -

    Treatments basically fall into three categories - anti-inflammatories to directly suppress the allergy, 'adjunctive' treatments to aid in relieving the patient's discomfort and lessen allergic reactions, and desensitization.
    There are basically three choices for direct anti-inflammatory treatment, and sadly none of them is ideal. (One dermatology text I have lists fourteen treatments for atopy, which gives you an idea of how well any of them work, or there wouldn't be the other thirteen.)

    Anti-Inflmmatories-
    1) Cortisone. Or steroids. Or prednisone. Or 'Depo shots.'
    There is only one good thing about cortisone. It really , really works. Unfortunately, there are several bad things about cortisone. It can have nasty side effects and is not a good choice for long term therapy. If your dog flares up for 3 weeks in September each year, fine- use cortisone. It is not dangerous for this use- if a child gets poison ivy they go on prednisolone. However, if your dog itches from August until November, being on cortisone for a third of the year is a bad plan.
    2) Antihistamines.
    These are pretty much the opposite of cortisone. They are nice and safe, they just don't work as well as we would like. In my opinion (and the opinion of most, including the most popular veterinary drug handbook), Benadryl is simply useless for atopy. (The handbook, under dosing, says 'effectiveness is questionable but may be tried'. Translation - 'It doesn't work, but since we know you are going to use it anyway, here is the dose.') Benadryl is a fine drug for bee stings, hives, vaccine reactions etc., but not for atopy. Other antihistamines, like loratidine , clemastine, and hydroxyzine are more effective, but still far less effective than cortisone.
    3) Cyclosporines.
    The main cyclosporine in use is Atopica. Some veterinarians consider this drug to be the cure all for atopy, most of us find it a useful drug for many, a godsend for some, and not as good as we would like for quite a few. It can be expensive - very much so for larger dogs, and there are stomach upset issues. Unlike the others, it is a drug the patient tends to stay on rather than be used as needed. Certainly an option to be considered and discussed with your veterinarian.

    Adjunctive Treatments -
    As the goal in most cases is to minimize the use of cortisones, there are many options.
    1) Topicals.
    These are not as effective as the direct anti- inflammatories. Let's go back to our friend, the person who unfortunately ate the strawberry. She can put Benadryl cream, cortisone cream, calamine lotion etc. on the rash on her arm and she will feel a little better. Or, she can take an antihistamine, make the reaction stop, and feel a LOT better.
    However, to cut down on the need for systemic drugs topicals can help. There are cortisone sprays - very nice for covering the groin and sternum areas, which are too large for an ointment to be practical. There are shampoos, particularly the oatmeal shampoos, which give nice but sadly temporary relief, not of great value alone but which can be quite useful when used with other treatments. There are ointments for smaller, hairless areas.
    2) Omega-3s or Tri-omegas.
    These 'fish oil' capsules are a useful coat conditioner and have a mild anti-inflammatory effect, which is increased in mega-doses. They do not seem to do much for atopy by themselves, but can be useful in reducing the need for the 'direct acting' medications listed above.

    Desensitization-
    Allergy testing followed by using 'allergy shots' to make the allergic reaction less severe is another course of action. i confess that in my experience it has not been particularly successful. I have referred many patients to dermatologists who have proceeded with testing and desensitization of my patients, and frankly the number who have been pleased with the result and happy they chose that option is relatively ( as in very ) small. One problem, as discussed above, is that atopic dogs generally have multiple allergies to many many allergens. desensitization works best targeting a limits number of allergens. So it might be a good choice, for example , when testing shows a severe reaction to dust mites, and very little to anything else, and this coincides with what is seen in the patient in terms of seasonal occurrence.

    This , then constitutes our approach to, and our options for, dealing with atopy in the dog. The key thing to remember is that, even if we see a dozen cases of atopy in a day, each is different and the treatment can not be 'cookbooked' to a one size fits all. The otherwise healthy dog who erupts into a firestorm of itching for three weeks each September is very different from a dog with health problems who gets 'a little itchy' on and off for about half the year. Your patients individual needs and choices should be discussed with your veterinarian.
     
  3. ClantyreSheltie

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    All sounds good and reasonable to me. My Collie gets this every fall. I find some days are worse than others, and i choose to not to systemically treat it. I just watch it, and treat any open areas she may chew on. It usually resolves just fine, and we go on. I still maintain the less you mess with a system, the better it will work. If she had it more than a month, I might do something, but it's generally mild and short lived.
     
  4. Caro

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    Thanks for writing all the info up, it is spring over here and we are seeing lots of allergies too. Interesting about the anti-histamines. Tully usually gets a cortisone shot at this time of year but I've been trying to manage it with antihistamines (promethazine), maybe I should just go with the cortisone shot to get her through the next weeks.
     
  5. Danny's mommy

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    My Danny has a severe flare up so he's on prednisone pills plus antibiotics for a short time. I also put cortisone cream on his bad itchy areas and our vet suggested bathing him with mild shampoo twice a week. I wonder if Danny has a genetic disposition to these skin problems?
     
  6. nbrard

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    I like it, it's well written and very informative. I didn't realize that loratidine could be given to dogs, it is what the people in this house use for allergies. Is the dosage similar to Benadryl for pets? We are experiencing some mild itchiness here so like ClantyreSheltie we are keeping an eye on it to make sure it's short lived and doesn't get worse.
     
  7. Ann

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    Thanks so much, Dr. Mac! This is great information and will be a useful in our Forum reference section. My vet did recommend loratidine for Pixie this year who licks her paws endlessly in the season. We were lucky...I found a wonderful shampoo with tea tree oil and that, combined with using medicated pads to clean her paws, seemed to do the job. I've had dogs who needed cortisone to help though -- as you said, every dog gets it differently. Thanks again! Guinea pig us any time!
     
  8. The Quahog

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    The loratidine dose is much lower.
    Benadryl is 1-2mg per pound 2X daily. (See, I DO know it. :smile2:) Can cause drowsiness.
    Loratidine is 1 standard 10 mg tab per 40 pounds. Only once per day.
    For what its worth, I actually think hydroxyzine is more effective than loratidine, but as far as I know it is not available over the counter. -Dr. Mac
     
  9. nbrard

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    Thank you very much Dr. Mac, this is very good to know.
     
  10. dawns2shelties

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    Thanks Dr Mac for sharing this valuable info with all of us here. As you have probably read we are doing allergy shots with Gypsy. She still has outbreaks but nothing like last year. Her allergy is to dustmites and flies. I am hopeful since you said it is a good protacol for dustmites. We have been doing them since January along with Hexadine baths everyother day and Amikacin spray 1%topically on affected areas.
     

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